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July 10, 2026, 
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   >> CHAIR: Okay. Are we ready to resume? Do we still have the captioning working? Is the recording going? Yes? Okay. So let's continue with our agenda. 
   And hopefully we'll be able to conclude by 5:30. And the ‑‑ just to let you know, there's a ‑‑ as a reminder, we are having a welcome ‑‑ I mean a concluding reception at the end. It's not really reception, it's more of a toast, like we've done. So there's light snacks and a toast to hopefully a successful ending. 
   But we'll get to that later. 
   So let's ‑‑ let's continue on our agenda. And we are just finishing up Working Party 3, we're now at the interim activities for Working Party 3 and TD 249 of PLEN. And so I'd ask Mr. Huber to introduce the interim activities and then we'll approve them as a whole. 
   >> WP 3 Chair: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 
   So right, there are three face‑to‑face meetings planned, Q 11 will have a meeting in hosted by ZTE. Q 14 and 13 will meet in Geneva hosted by ITU. 
   There's several virtual meetings planned as well. Most of those are the usual, you know, virtual meetings that we have every plenary. 
   And then we've also included in here the correspondence activities that are planned. There's a table with those listed as well across the Working Party. 
   >> CHAIR: Okay. Thank you. So this is a correspondence activities. Go up to the interim meetings. Where was the ‑‑ topics is on the left, I see. Topics for the terms of reference for the interim meetings is indicated. 
   >> WP 3 Chair: And those are all listed also in the annexes. 
   >> CHAIR: Could you scroll through the annexes then, please. 
   >> WP 3 Chair: In more detail. 
   >> CHAIR: We're not going through each annex, we'll just scroll through them now just to see the details. 
   And the highlighting here, that's the logistics information to be added, is that what ‑‑ 
   >> WP 3 Chair: I think those are Zoom links to be added. I don't know if we consistently highlighted all of those. But TSB knows what to do. 
   >> CHAIR: Yes, TSB is. 
   >> [?] 
   >> CHAIR: Right, right, okay. Okay. Very good. 
   Are there any ‑‑ so that's the set there. So you can go back to the top. Is there any comments on the interim meetings and correspondence activities that have been proposed by Working Party 3?
   Not seeing any. Okay. Can we agree to these? Okay. Thank you very much. 
   They're agreed. And thank you, Mr. Huber, for the reports and the progress and Working Party 3. 
   Are there any other things to note from Working Party 3 or... 
   >> No, thank you, Chair. 
   >> CHAIR: So let's move on to working party 1. The main report for working party 1 is in TD 235 of PLEN and so I'll ask the Working Party 1 Chair to introduce this as soon as Hiroshi brings up the text. 
   Please, Mr. Horsley. 
   >> WP1 Chair: So the [?] aspects and networking chaired by myself, assisted I believe we the vice‑chair. We had quite a busy meeting in Q2 and Q3 with ten documents approved, consented agreed, or for review. 
   And all of the texts were expected to be forwarded to the study group for decision. 
   There were two supplements, 4 draft recommendations, 1 technical report, one recommendation for approval and two texts for review. The one text need addition or deletion and no technical papers. 
   We generated 12 outgoing liaison statements and 3 A.1s and 4 A.13's for new recommendations and supplements. 
   I've got 4 interim rapporteur meetings planned face‑to‑face and several teleconferences. 
   If you could scroll down to the Q2 section. Q2 met for four days in the second week. All the consent and agreement documents were sent for decision, including the consent of amendment to G.980 CI. And also a new supplement 93 LLSOTWER. So low latency supplements. 
   Many contributions were received and progress was made particularly on next version of the [?] supplement and more generally on the topic of AI in the broadband era. Basically the AI for networks and networks for AI and the requirements are thereon. 
   Q2, joint meetings with Q6, 11, and 12 regarding cooperation with WBBA. Another one with 5 and 6 concerning hollow core fiber and finally joint meeting with Q3 on several topics of joint interests. 
   They planned several face‑to‑face teleconference interim meetings and they prepared the outgoing liaisons. 
   General work programs updated and new work started. I'd like to draw your attention to the work on multi[?] corporation and also a revision to the supplement on part of optical network protection considerations. 
   There are also several other revisions and amendment projects that were started. 
   Move on to Q3. We met for four days in second week as well and addressed the 9 contributions. They progressed well in various families of recommendations and the will responsibilities including G.hn, G.fin, et cetera. All were all sent for consideration. Including one draft recommendation which is amendment 1 to 9949 which is the WMI for fin. And three draft recommendations were prepared and 4 for consent. That was 9903 and that surround the narrow band transceivers. And 994.6 that was forwarded for consent. 
   There were two documents which were forwarded for agreement, supplement the edge4home and the 10 gig. 
   Perhaps the most significant thing at this meeting was the move looking at the slower rate fiber and premise work and moving on to the start of the 10 gig series. So that's seen in the consent of this meeting of G.9946 in the data layer, shows that movement on to the next generation. 
   We expect with the other two of that family to follow likely at the next plenary. 
   As mentioned before, they held a joint session with Q2. 
   Move on to Question 4, please. 
   Q4 was scheduled for half a day in the second week. They received one contribution which was reviewed. No action was needed. 
   They reviewed their work program and confirmed it and they invite contributions for the next meeting to progress the work of the question. 
   That's the highlights. Thanks, Mr. Chair. I won't take any more time going through the detail. 
   >> CHAIR: Okay. Thank you very much, Ian, for that summary report of the activities in Working Party 1. 
   And so ‑‑ I think you just summarized the first parts of it and there's more detail in the rest of the report. Okay. Thank you. 
   And so are there any ‑‑ any comments on the summary and the report from Working Party 1?
   Okay. If you could just, like, quickly scroll down to show that there's ‑‑ there's the detailed question reports and summaries in here as well. The results from all the activities. 
   Okay. I thank you. 
   Can we agree this report from Working Party 1? Okay. 
   Thank you. 
   So next if we could then move to the next document in the set from Working Party 1, the text for determination, consent, agreement, and approval in TD 236 of PLEN. 
   And so I'd ask the Working Party 1 Chair to just briefly introduce this and then I'll go through the approval of each one one at a time. 
   >> WP1 Chair: I've already covered of numbers of each time. But just to say there's nothing particularly of note of any of the documents we forwarded for decision. All the documents have been uploaded, including 3 A.5s which have been in time. 
   Thank you. 
   >> CHAIR: Okay. Thank you very much. So let's ‑‑ let's go down through the ‑‑ through the set here. As this ‑‑ is this organized by ‑‑ this is for all Working Party 1, right?
   >> Yes. 
   >> CHAIR: So there's no documents for determination, nothing in tap this time. And for AAP approval. So this is approval because we brought the text back from the consent to the ‑‑ from last call, from the last meeting, consent from the last meeting. 
   This is G.9949, amendment 1, which is WMCI amendment 1. And the text for this is in TD 281 R1 PLEN. 
   Any comments on this for AAP approval? Okay. 
   This is approved. 
   Next nothing for determination. So next moving on to documents for consent. 
   So the first one is G.988 amendment 3. This is ONU management and control interface OMCI amendment 3. Text is in TD 275 R1 and the A5 justification is in TD 290 of PLEN. 
   Any comments on this?
   Okay. That's approved. 
   Next is G.9903 corrigendum 2. This is on narrow band FDM power line TLC. And the text is in TD 283 R2 and A5 TD 296 of PLEN. 
   Can we consent this? Thank you. 
   Next is G.9903 amount 3. This is also the GL 3 PLC but amendment 3. Text is in TD 284 R2. 
   Any comments here?
   Okay, that's approved. 
   Next is G.9946, this is a new recommendation as well. This used to be called Xfin‑DLL and the text is in TD 285 R1 with the A5 in TD 301 of PLEN. 
   Any comments here? Okay, that's approved. 
   And that's the set for consent. So then next moving to the documents for agreement, the first one is G.supplement 93. This is a new supplement for the low layer split mobile fronthaul over TDM PON. And TD 289 R1. Any comments on this one?
   Okay. This is approved. 
   Next is the G.supplement edge4home, do we have a number for this one? This is G.Supp 94, enhanced in‑premises networking with computing functions. TD 286 R1. Can we agree to this supplement? Thank you. 
   And the next one is GSTR, this is on network characteristics and use cases for 10 Gigabit broadband era. Text is in TD 280 R1. 
   Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   And then we have two documents for review which is the HNT standards overview and work plan Version 19. The text is in TD 252 of PLEN. 
   Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   And the next one for review is the ANT standards overview and work plan. This is Revision 42. And the text is in TD 251. 
   Can we agree with this review? Thank you. 
   And no recommendations for deletions, so that's the set of doc texts for ‑‑ out of the Working Party 1. 
   So next if we could move to the work program for Working Party 1 in TD 237 of PLEN. 
   And our counselor will bring it up and I'll ask Mr. Horsley to introduce. 
   And again, summarize the overall work program and then we'll go through the A.1 and A.13 individually after. 
   >> WP1 chair: The Q2, there's projects, some revisions to the timings and updates to the baseline text. Q3, new projects and also updates to the baseline text. 
   And Q4, work program is empty at the moment but will expect future work ‑‑ I expect work in future meetings as deployments continue and issues are found. 
   Thank you very much. 
   >> CHAIR: Okay. Thank you very much. Just to go up to the top, Hiroshi, please, which is the ‑‑ the update of the work plan ‑‑ or work program. 
   On this, this is shown in change mark, there's no highlighting here. 
   >> Change marks show the ‑‑ 
   >> CHAIR: It's just change marks and then we have the new additions and changes as noted. Okay. Thank you. 
   Okay. So we'll approve that afterwards. The updated work program. We'll go through the A.1 and A.13s in the annexes first. 
   We'll start off with the A.13 justification for proposed new supplement on cooperation based on combo ONU for multiPON. The editors are noted and we have a number of supporters indicated. 
   Can we agree to this new work?
   Thank you. 
   So the next one is will a ‑‑ this is a revision for an existing supplement, yes? Supplement 51 with the editor's noted and the supporters thereafter the scope and the summary. Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   Next is the A.13 justification for a new supplement on AI‑enhanced business networking. And there's the proposers and we have a number of supporters here as well. 
   Can we agree to this new TR? Thank you. 
   Next is a proposed new recommendation on the user services platform with the editor noted here and then the scope and summary indicated here. With a list of supporters indicated here. 
   Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   Next is the A.13 justification for a new technical report on in vehicle optical network based FIP technologies. 
   So this is ‑‑ this is a use case and gap analysis of this technology. Or this vertical, if you will. And the application of the existing technologies that we have in ‑‑ in Study Group 15 to this space. 
   And are there any comments on this proposal?
   Can we agree to this new work item some. 
   Thank you. 
   Next is the A.1 justification of the new recommendation on the coexistence of G.fin and G.Xfin fibers with the supporters noted and the editors noted here. Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   Next one is a new recommendation on system architecture for the high‑speed fiber‑based in‑premises network with the supporters indicated here. 
   Can we approve this? New work item. 
   Thank you. And that's the set of new work items for Working Party 1. 
   And so now we'll go back up to the top and to review the work program, which identifies the changes that our counselor will be making in the work program database as well as any updates to the editors. 
   And of course identify new editors as we had just noted. 
   Can we agree to this?
   Thank you, that's agreed. 
   So then let's move on, then, to the liaison statements from Working Party 1. And that's in TD 238 of PLEN. 
   So I'd ask Mr. Horsley to introduce this briefly and then we'll go through each liaison statement to approve them one at a time. Ian, please. 
   >> WP1 Chair: There are 12 liaison statements, at the end there are three labeled from Working Party 1 which are from Q2 and Q3, joint outgoing liaison statements. All of them are for information. 
   Thank you. 
   >> CHAIR: Okay. Thank you very much. So let's go through the approval of each one of these. The first one is for information to O‑RAN. And so this is on the agreement of the new supplement that we just talked about which was actually it was supplement some number, wasn't it?
   Okay, I didn't see that in the title, but... 
   >> [?] 
   >> CHAIR: Oh, but it's in the text. Well, it's in the abstract. Okay. I wanted to make sure that the number was there. 
   Okay. And so we have collaboration here on this report. Okay. Any comments on this ‑‑ this liaison?
   Okay. This is agreed. 
   So the next one is to the NGMN alliance. This is on metering. 
   And so this is information on work item that we have and nothing attached here. Okay. 
   Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   The next one is to an MSA. The 25 GS‑PON MSA and we're letting them know about the doppler 88 in the recent publication of that. 
   Okay. Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. Next is to the world WLAN application alliance. 
   And so this is for information and we're letting them know about our current test plan and our various status of the various documents and we're attaching one of them to the ‑‑ to this liaison. 
   Okay. Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   The next one is to the broadband forum and this is on response to their comments on our test ‑‑ on the test plan that we ‑‑ we have. So if we scroll down, these are various comments on that. 
   Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   Next is to the wifi alliance, again, on the comments that they've had on WMCI and we provided the feedback to them on this. 
   Okay. Any comments on this?
   Okay. 
   This is agreed. 
   So next is liaison to Study Group 5 on the updates to the ANT and HNT. Scroll down, thanking them for their input on ‑‑ okay, thank you. 
   This is agreed. 
   Next is to Study Group 21, focus group on embodied AI in Study Group 21. And providing some background on our work that may be relevant. 
   Okay. Any comments on that?
   That's agreed. 
   The next one is to Study Group 20, 802.3, ISO TC 22 help and alliance. And the start of the in‑vehicle optical network based on this. So just to go back up, which is information that we're starting ‑‑ I was just wondering who is it going to?
   This is the AC open alliance 802.3 ‑‑ yes, okay. 
   Any comments on this liaison?
   Okay. This is agreed, then. 
   So the next one is to the broadband forum on the BBF inputs to the ANT and HNT. If you scroll down, you'll see the feedback on that and points to the work plan. 
   Okay. Thank you. Can we agree to this? Thank you. 
   Next is to the ‑‑ to 802.3 also on the NTH and ANT work plan thanking them for their input to the new version. Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   Next is to ‑‑ to ‑‑ a long list of information here to TSAG, various study groups, ITU‑R, Working Parties, ITU‑D, I think that's ITU‑D, need to fix the typo there, it's not ITD‑D. If you could take a note to fix that before sending it. 
   This is sending the ANT and HNT and looking for comments. Okay. 
   Can we agree to this? Thank you. 
   So next ‑‑ that's the end of the liaison statements so thank you for Working Party 1. And your liaison statements. 
   We have next TD 239, which is the interim activities from  Working Party 1. I'll ask you to introduce this and then we'll agree the set of them. So please introduce interim activities. 
   >> WP1 Chair: We have four face‑to‑face and remote option and several virtual meetings across Questions 2 and 3. 
   You might note one of the last ‑‑ or the last Question 2 one is very close to the upcoming plenary. Those dates keep moving around. We may cancel that one if it isn't needed in the end. 
   So they're all confirmed. I'd like to thank the host for volunteering and getting them organized early to help facilitate these. 
   >> CHAIR: Okay, thank you. Thank you for this. I'm just noting that one of the interims that are proposed here is after our next plenary. 
   It's not clear that we are able to do that. So I mean, so that ‑‑ that can remain proposed. From the rules, I just conferred with our counselor here, we can't confirm that since we have another plenary where that. 
   But we can certainly list it here as proposed. 
   >> WP1 Chair: It's quite close to the plenary, that's why the desire to get the ‑‑ 
   >> [?] 
   >> CHAIR: I just conferred with the counselor again and the recommendation is we change this to proposed but we won't confirm it until our next plenary. 
   And is it [?]. And so the other thing with the virtual meetings, the last virtual meeting is inside the window of the ‑‑ 
   >> WP1 Chair: We're aware of that. It keeps moving so we'll delete it if we don't need it. 
   >> CHAIR: I agree, the plenary keeps moving so much. We had a lot of discussion on that. I prefer to change that to proposed as well. And then if ‑‑ and you can move it around would be preferable to move it ‑‑ move it outside of the contribution. Because that will be after the contribution deadline for the plenary. 
   Okay, with those two items changed to proposed, which is the last one of the interims and the last one of the virtual, are there any further comments on this?
   Okay. So maybe we'll ‑‑ we'll do ‑‑ let's do an R1 of this. Changing these two to ‑‑ changing these two to proposed. 
   >> I'll do that. 
   >> CHAIR: Okay, if you could. Thank you. Okay. 
   So given that with the R1 and so we're changing to proposed, the interim meeting in May and the proposed virtual meeting that's in February, and my recommendation is that that actually be moved outside of the ‑‑ of the contribution deadline for the next plenary. Okay. 
   So then we'll confirm all the other meetings. 
   Okay. Thank you. 
   Is there anything else, then, from Working Party 1, Ian, that you need to bring up? No, okay. Thank you very much for your report. 
   And so that, Ladies and Gentlemen, brings us to agenda Item 15. Agenda Item 15 is the leadership appointments for Study Group 15. So this is in  TD 223 R1 of PLEN. 
   And so you may recall, at the beginning we changed the leadership of Working Party 2. And we indicated that we needed to update the rapporteurs as a result of that. 
   So that's what we've done in this ‑‑ this revision here. So if you scroll down to the rapporteur section, so this is the Working Party. We did that. We agreed that in the opening plenary. 
   So if you scroll down here, we see that for question six now we'll be appointing Mr. Raul Munoz from CTTC, Spain, as the rapporteur in Question 6. 
   And then the new associate rapporteur for Question 12, Jonathan Sadler. So first of all, is Raul here in the room? He was here earlier. Did he have to leave? He left for a flight? Okay. All right. 
   And is Mr. Sadler here? Jonathan is here. There you go. Thank you. 
   Okay. And thank you for your willingness to serve in these roles. And so we will ‑‑ we will appoint these new associate rapporteurs for Question 6 and Question 12. 
   Thank you. So next on the ‑‑ next on the agenda is agenda Item 16 which is the OUI assignment update. This is in TD 292. 
   So I'd ask our counselor to bring that up and, Mr. Cosart, are you going to introduce this? Maybe you want to walk back to the microphone there to... maybe just highlight what's changed in this for us. 
   Thank you. 
   >> Mr. Cosart: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 
   So we ‑‑ a lot of our work is connected with profiles on the IEEE 1588 PTP document, and when we change one of our profiles such that we want to make a new version of that profile, then it's necessary for us to also update the OUI, organizationally unique identifier, document. 
   So that is what is done here. And it ‑‑ the only modification to this document is in Clause 7. Clause 7 is entitled use of OUI in IEEE 1588 profile identifier. And if for anyone that's interested in seeing what exactly the change is, at the top of the ‑‑ of the page identified as Number 11, there you will see two new entries into the table. 
   The reason for there being two entries, both of these are associated with G.8275.1, the full‑time support profile. That's the only references made. Since we make references to the 2008 and nine versions, that means there are two new entries into that table. That's it. Thank you. 
   >> CHAIR: Okay. Thank you very much for that. 
   Is there any comments on this? Okay. 
   Then this is agreed. And so our counselor will update there's a link on the Study Group 15 web page where the OUIs are and he will update that after the meeting. 
   So then let's move on to Item 17, which is the reports on our liaison, promotion and coordination and other roles. 
   So we'll start with the incoming liaisons. And so if we could open up TD 232 R1 there is just to highlight that there was two new liaisons that were received after the start of the plenary that we've already taken into account from Study Group 13. Because Study Group 13 finished last week, last Friday, and we received them on Monday. 
   And so I'm not sure if they're shown here in change or if they're just ‑‑ yeah, the ones ‑‑ oh, we have three. What was the ‑‑ 
   >> [?] 
   >> CHAIR: Oh, this was the wifi alliance. And then we responded to that one, right? That was one ‑‑ yes. That was the other one was the wifi alliance one. 
   Okay. So that's just noting that we have taken those into account and we've updated the document to show that. 
   The next is the liaison rapporteurs. This is in TD 272 R2. So it was requested that we have had additional liaison rapporteurs assigned to some SGOs that we have a relationships ‑‑ we have liaison exchanges with. 
   And so there was some updates there. Further than what we had, of course, in the beginning. 
   This, I believe, is shown in change marks showing the security contacts. So myself as the overall on security and then we have Working Party 1 contact and then Working Party 3 contact. 
   And then if you scroll down then to we have noted that the JCA and I'd management and metaverse, we've been requested to assign a liaison rapporteur by these JCAs but we could not identify one so they're noted as vacant. 
   And then WAA is a new one that we have identified Shew Ming Wu as the liaison rapporteur to this. 
   Shew Ming is not here, I don't think. I think he left. Is that correct, Ian? The proposed liaison rapporteur for WAA, he has left? He's not in the room, is that correct?
   >> That's correct. 
   >> CHAIR: Is there anything further in the PCG?
   >> That's all. 
   >> CHAIR: Any comments on these liaison rapporteur appointments? Okay. Those are approved. 
   And the expectation from the liaison rapporteur is just to provide a report to the meeting before the next plenary on their topics. 
   Okay. So the next is the report from the regional group on Africa. The report from the regional group on Africa is going to be presented by Mohamad who is remote. Is he remote? Is he online remote? 
   I'll ask Mohamad to present TD 293 R 1, please. 
   Okay, it should be coming up now. Mohamad, can you ‑‑ 
   >> Mohamad: Yes, can you hear me? 
   >> CHAIR: Please go ahead. 
   >> Mohamad: Thank you, colleagues, chairman, and vice Chair. I'm pleased to present to you the report of the progress report of Study Group 15 and regional group for Africa. 
   So we have session last Tuesday where I had the opportunity to, you know, go widely deep and deep into the progress being made, so you can see the TD 293 R1 in further details. 
   There are many hyperlinks where you can go into the ‑‑ some aspect related to what have been done. Since the last October's plenary in Geneva. 
   So Section 1, the most important things is the appointment of the vice‑chairs as per the terms of reference that has been given to us by the Study Group 15. 
   So there was four names, as you can see, on the document. So we have Mr. Hlilou from North Africa, Romi from Cameroon, Fatouma from Djibouti, and lastly Mr. Ousmane from Senegal. 
   So what I'm seeing is agreeing on the set of vice‑chairs that is within the ‑‑ this report. And this is in line with the terms of reference. 
   In the second part of the document, you can see that the group has adopted an approach based on four pillars where the approach is trying to really push forward Study Group 15, you know, promotion in Africa and trying to get involved African stakeholders, whether operators, regulators, and all stakeholders that are interested in Study Group 15 standardization process. 
   So we have adopted an approach and I widely last Tuesday explained the document. You can see the hyperlink. You can go into it deeper into that. 
   So, and then each vice‑chair, of course, has been allocated certain responsibilities to undertake within the regional up. 
   We have received a number of contributions, Q7, Q8 that we have been discussing. And of course we are trying and willing to in the near future to increase the number of contributions and the quality of the contributions that fit directly with the Study Group 15 program. 
   Lastly, we had very interesting workshop that have been taking place in 19 of May, the day after the first meeting of the regional group. 
   So the workshop was in Africa Study Group 15 subsection process. It was divided into two part, reduce standardization gap and we have second session on presenting Working Party's progress and progress, you know, of the work and the Working Party. 
   So this is it. So chairman, through you maybe we can invite the room to ‑‑ to weigh in for any feedback, but also approving the set of vice‑chairs and receive any guidance from the plenary. 
   Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
   >> CHAIR: Okay. Thank you very much, Mohamed for ‑‑ for this report as the chair of the regional group on Africa. 
   And noting that there's been a significant work with the first meeting and some good setting the groundwork for some success on promoting the work of Study Group 15 in Africa. 
   First, before we go to approving the vice‑chairs, I'll ask if there's any comments on this report from the regional... 
   Okay. Then we'll certainly accept this report. But let's now approve the ‑‑ the proposed vice‑chairs. The terms of reference that we had agreed at our last study group plenary had indicated that up to four vice‑chairs would be appointed or could be appointed. 
   And so based on, of course, their experience and, you know, geographical distribution and competence, and so the CVs are available here that have been reviewed and there's four that are proposed. 
   So I know that Mr. Hlilou from Tunisia is not here in person. But I wonder if some of the others are here. I know that Mr. Ndiaye from Senegal is here in the back. Maybe you can stand and we can see you. There you go. Thank you very much. 
   So what about the Fatouma from Djibouti telecom, she's right here. Maybe you can stand as well and we can recognize you. Thank you. Thank you. 
   And the individual from Cameroon I don't think is here. She's remote, okay. Very good. 
   Thank you very much for your interest and support of Study Group 15. And with that, I will ‑‑ I will approve these vice‑chairs for the regional group on Africa. 
   Thank you very much for your support. 
   And thank you, Mohamed, for your support as Chair of the regional group and I look forward to an upcoming in‑person meeting and further fruitful work. 
   Thank you. 
   Okay. Moving on to the next agenda item is 17.4, this is on the promotion voluntary support program. This is in TD 297 of PLEN. 
   And so ‑‑ so for this one, I'd like to ask vice‑chair for promotion and coordination to introduce this. So Mr. Ferretti is not up here, he's coming to the microphone over here. If you could bring up 297 and then I'll ask Vince to introduce. Please go ahead. 
   >> Vince: So we introduced a promotion support program at our last plenary, and we call it the shared promotion sponsorship program. 
   And we outlined the goals to increase the visibility of ITU‑T. And what I mean global, so we're going to major conferences in all the regions of the world. But we needed money for that. So that was ‑‑ so we needed to optimize cost efficiency and shared costs. 
   So we needed to ask for volunteers from our members to help facilitate that cost. 
   Also it's an opportunity to promote our members. And again, it enabled that international participation. 
   So between October of last year and OFC 2027, we refined the program. Renamed it promotion volunteer support program. Really to simplify member participation through voluntary contributions to TSB. 
   We are thankful and happy to announce that Huawei volunteered to become the first member of this voluntary support program and that's going to enable us to go to ECOC this year and have a booth, a regular‑size booth and also a support us at ACP. 
   So that support we continue to ask the rest of the members of Study Group 15 to consider participation in this program as you are able. 
   And if your organization wishes to receive further details, then please contact ITU membership, TSB, or you can contact me or Hiroshi, our counselor. 
   Thank you. 
   >> CHAIR: Okay. Thank you very much, Vince. 
   Are there any comments on this ‑‑ on this update?
   I'd just like to say that we appreciate the support from TSB who has supported our booth at OFC. And we had I guess a tiny booth at ECOC last year, which was effectively a pull‑up banner and a high table. 
   But this ‑‑ this year with the support from the support program, we're able to have an actual booth where we'll be highlighting the demos from what we did at OFC this year where we'll poll the membership and ask if there's things that we'd like you to highlight ‑‑ or that you'd like to highlight at our booths ‑‑ at the ITU booth and we'll continue the promotion of Study Group 15 and our relevance in the optical networking ecosystem. 
   And so we appreciate the support of TSB, but we'd like to bring that promotion a little bit further and looking for voluntary support from the membership to do that. 
   So with that, thank you very much for introducing that and let's move on to the promotion coordination group for the rest of the report of all the activities of the promotion and coordination group in TD 250 of PLEN. 
   And so I'd like to invite the Chair of the promotion and coordination group to introduce this report. 
   >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Promotion and coordination group met during period 5 on Tuesday this week. The meeting was chaired by me and assisted by [?] vice‑chair Mr. Vincent  Ferretti and three coordinators. 
   The main topics were the promotion of Study Group 15 activities, PCG and draft responses to all incoming documents to all questions. 
   In total of 100 documents were submitted to Qall, of which 18 documents made correction. And PCG prepared 13 direct liaison statements. 
   For selected topics, additional sessions were held during the plenary meeting. Study group and ITU strategic plan for PP 26 on the 30th of Jun and ITU‑T standards of the [?] on the 2nd of July. 
   PCU would like to expression its appreciation to the Chair of the Working Party 2, Mr. Bruce Gracie, social [?] of RG‑IES, and the rapporteur of RG‑IES for their participation and contributions. 
   In Section 3 ‑‑ Section 3.1 reviews the promotion activities since the last meeting. The promotion of the ION technical report is still ongoing and activity participated in several major international conferences including ITSF. 
   Fiber connect APAC conference, OFC 26, and WSTS. 
   At these events, we had 15 organized divisions, delivered technical presentations, promoted standards activities and engaged with industry to engage the visibility of Study Group 15's work. 
   Scroll down, please. 
   In addition, two technical flyers have been issued, and a number of video interviews have been produced and a paper on SG15's work has been produced. 
   And there are three workshops during this plenary meeting, including the joint ITU‑T SG15 and ITU‑T workshop tomorrow. 
   If you scroll to the Section 3.2. Yeah. 
   And Section 3.2 reports on the proposed promotion activities for this meeting. We are planning to participate in several major conferences including ECOC, WBBA, ACP, ITSF, and OFC. 
   The plans include live demonstrations, technical presentations, invited to talks and to further increase the visibility of Study Group 15's work. 
   And be in addition, three new technical flyers were prepared by Questions 5 and 6. The video interviews are ongoing and so far interviews have been recorded with Study Group 15 Chair, Working Party 2 Chair and vice‑chair, PC vice‑chair and experts from several questions. 
   We are developing standard success stories in Working Party 2 and 3 completed their success stories during this meeting. 
   And also success flyer will be developed for submission to the TSAG to be used for other study groups. 
   3.3 is promotion objectives. PCG developed Study Group 15 promotion voluntary support program. And from Section 4, report are covers coordination activities. 
   Will regarding PSG, one contribution from developing country was submitted to Question 2 and the summary of the resort, this question will be sent to ITU‑T. 
   And there are three liaison statements were received from ITU‑T. 
   In Section 4.2. And last one, TD 273 in Section 4.2.3, request information on 15 work items related to [?]. A direct response was prepared based on input from documents. 
   And regarding conference and testing, Section 5, Working Party 1 reviewed the liaison and provided input for the draft response. 
   And regarding inter‑sector coordination in Section 5, Working Party 2 rebuild the liaison statement and concluded that the reply is needed at this time. 
      And please scroll down to the Section 9, please. 
   Yes. This is incoming liaisons from TSAG and TD 238 requests comments on the proposed checklist for ITU‑T deliverables. A direct response was prepared comparing the checklist with the existing ITU‑T guide and menu and suggesting reference to our guidelines. 
   And TD 244 in Section 9.7 requests update on the implementation of WTSA 24 Resolution 86. A draft was prepared by the Chair of regional group Africa. 
   And TD 245 in Section 9.1 Point A, because comments on the lead study group concept, a direct response was prepared to explain that Study Group 15's leader study group role is in line with the TSAG view while also highlighting the lead study group concept for 15. 
   A separate session was held to discuss this topic. 
   And TD 262 in Section 9.1.10 request feedback on the modernization of study groups. They prepared a direct response and additional suggestions were added in the draft. 
   And TD 294 in Section 9.1.11 encouraged all study groups to continue developing standards success stories. All Working Parties were invited to prepare success stories and Working Party 2 produced a 4 success stories and Working Party 3 produced 1. 
   Regarding incoming liaisons related to JCA and focusing in Section 9.3, if you'll scroll down to Section 9.3, please. 
   Yes. TD 295 and the older TD in Section 9.3.10 requests input to the metaverse standardization roadmap and invited study groups to nominate representatives to the JCA. 
   After reviewing the request, it was concluded that Study Group 15 has no direct relevant work items to provide and no need to nominate representative. 
   However, the description of SG15 in the document needs to be improved, so a direct response was prepared with proposed revisions. 
   And TD 320 and the other TDs in Section 9.3.11 request input update of the IMT2020 and IMT2030 roadmap. 
   During the review, it was noted that information previously provided by Study Group 15 had not been reflected on the JCA website. This issue will be brought to the attention of the JCA and for 15 management is considered to maintain information on SG15's IMT2020 and IMT2030 activities as a separate document and provide it to the JCA upon request. 
   A draft response was prepared. 
   And regarding incoming liaisons from other groups. TD 190 request update TM and OAM project plan. 
   As in previous meetings since July 2024, SG15 has consistently replied that considering the very largest scope and impractical structure of the list of documents, it's no longer able to provide any update in the requested comment. 
   And Study Group 15 has also consistently recommended that Study Group 2 transfer list of documents in the web‑based IoT landscape and report to our work program. 
   So PCG prepared a direct liaison response reflecting the help of this question instead of providing update. 
   And two liaison statements in Section 9.4.38, could you scroll down to 38. 
   And 9.4.39. These two liaisons were received after the start of this meeting. However, they were accepted as input for ‑‑ input to this meeting and the TD 323 was considered by Question 11 and TD 324 was for information. 
   Finally, in Section 10.1, in 10.1, one contribution was submitted to Qall. It proposed flyers to promoting ITU success stories. 
   The proposal was accepted and the success flyer will be developed by the next TSAG meeting as an [?] for study groups. 
   And Table 1, output documents from this meeting and all of them are included in the annexes. 
   Thank you, Mr. Chair. 
   >> CHAIR: Thank you very much. 
   Are there any ‑‑ any comments on this report from ‑‑ from PCG?
   Okay. Thank you. Then we can accept this report from PCG. 
   Let's review the liaison statements, though, now one at a time and we can ‑‑ we can go through those. 
   Are they in this document or are they ‑‑ they were attachments? Are they ‑‑ can you scroll down and go to them, Hiroshi? Here they are. 
   The first liaison is to ITU‑D Study Group 1 and 2. This is as we normally do, to update them on contributions from developing countries that we receive. 
   And so as part of the bridge and the standardization gap and activity, this is a summary about that work. 
   Can we agree to this liaison?
   Thank you. 
   The next liaison is also to ITU‑D Study Group 1. Specifically on, again on a contributions from developing countries. And specific liaison statement reply. 
   Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   Next in ‑‑ is to ITU‑D ‑‑ this is a specific question in Study Group 1 on collaboration on the ‑‑ in the DCLs in the liaison here. 
   Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   Next liaison is in ‑‑ is to ITU‑D Question 3 of Study Group 1. Again, this is on disaster resilience work items. Scroll down you'll see the response here, which is attaching a list of items that's in an annex in the attachment. 
   Can we agree to this? Thank you. 
   The next liaison is to Study Group 11. This is for updates to the CNI testing table that they're maintaining and we provide some feedback as well as an attachment. 
   Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   Next is liaison to TSAG. This is on the checklist that was proposed for ITU‑T are deliverables as was explained and this is ‑‑ this is some feedback on this checklist which is a little bit detailed feedback. It's indicated here. Plus the attachment of our guideline on ‑‑ on rapporteurs which provide some details similar to ‑‑ or in addition to what's in A 1, but also lines up with some of this checklist here as we have our own sort of additional checklist. 
   Can we agree to this liaison? Thank you. 
   The next one is to TSAG on the implementation of Resolution 86 which is on smart Africa and so we indicate to them that we have a regional group for Africa and this is how we're looking to promote that. Or implement Resolution 86. 
   Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   So the next liaison is to TSAG on the lead study group concept, which we have provided some detailed comments on the questions that they had asked as indicated here. And we had reviewed that in the ad‑hoc last week. 
   Can we agree to this?
   Oh, and there's also ‑‑ there's several attachments which is our guidelines on lead study group activities. So we've indicated that as well. 
   Okay. 
   >> Mr. Chair. 
   >> CHAIR: Yes. 
   >> In the note TSB, the TD 227 should be attached to Revision 2, not ‑‑ 
   >> CHAIR: Yes, because we updated that at the end there, yes, that's right. So TSB please note the last one is Revision 2. Okay, thank you. 
   The next liaison is to also to TSAG. This is on the modernization of study groups. This is to the industry engagement and strategy rapporteur group. So they ‑‑ there was a proposal on this. And as this was mostly related to electronic working methods, we asked the EWM team to help draft this response, which they did. 
   And they're listed as some of the contacts as well as PCG Chair. 
   And we've attached as well our guidelines for our PCG group for their information. 
   Okay. Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   Next is liaison on success stories from TSAG. And this is ‑‑ they offered us the opportunity to update our success stories, which we've updated some of them. 
   And so we're providing those ‑‑ those to TSAG. And these will be reviewed in the rapporteur group that's going to meet several times this summer and this fall before the TSAG meeting coming up. 
   So there's still an opportunity for us to provide additional input, but this is what we'll agree out of this meeting. 
   So that's agreed. Next liaison is to the JCA on Metaverse. This is on their request for further input, and so we provided some response here with that. 
   I guess the chain ‑‑ are we going to include the change marks in the response to them or that's ‑‑ 
   >> Actually we don't provide any information for ‑‑ that they are requesting, but we suggest to revise their text in the rudimentary document describing our study group. 
   >> CHAIR: Oh, that's what the ‑‑ that's what the change marks are? 
   >> Yes. 
   >> CHAIR: Are indicating they changed that. Okay. Yes. Oh, yes, and the highlight, please keep the track changes. Okay. Thank you. 
   Good thing that's there, to remind TSB. 
   Okay. Thank you. 
   This is agreed. 
   The next one is to the JCA IMT2020, IMT2030 providing feedback to them for them to provide more information. And so if you scroll down, please, Hiroshi, I think we provided them some feedback here. 
   But also noting that they didn't update their database from the last time we replied and they should do that. 
   Okay. Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   The next liaison is to Study Group 2 on telecom management and the OAM project plan that they review and we provided some update looking at our information here. 
   Can we agree to this?
   Thank you. 
   And that was the last one, yes? Okay. 
   Thank you very much. Is there any ‑‑ anything else from the PCG that you'd like to highlight for us?
   >> No, thank you, Chair. 
   >> CHAIR: No, that's good. Thank you very much. To the promotion and coordination group for the excellent work that they do. Certainly would like to acknowledge the Working Party coordinators as well for PCG that provide a lot of input in the significant work that PCG is doing to coordinate all our interfaces with other study groups and TSAG and promotions of course. 
   So next, what I'd like to do is to summarize for you the report of Study Group 15. This is a draft report in TD 234 of PLEN. 
   So I'm just going to, you know, highlight some of the key points in here. And we'll be, of course, open for comments on this. But myself and the counselor will finalize this in the coming ‑‑ in the coming weeks after the plenary once we sort of update all of the TDs and remind ourselves what ‑‑ what we agreed at this closing plenary. 
   So if you scroll down here, we'll see this is the report knowing the chairs and vice‑chairs were here. We had the director last week, the Deputy Director who were here. But noting that. 
   And then additional details, just keep scrolling down here, in the meeting reports and the various documents that were made available at the beginning of the meeting. 
   But then highlighting the updated appointment of working party chairs and vice‑chairs, Working Party noting that Mr. Paul Dulan resigned before this plenary and we thanked him for his excellent role as Working Party 2 Chair previously and ‑‑ but noting that we have then updated the Working Party 2 Chair and vice‑chair as a result. 
   And 2011 in addition to that, noting that we've updated the associate rapporteurs in Question 6 as a result ‑‑ well actually as the rapporteur in Question 6 as well. Did I mention that? What did I say at the top, Hiroshi? I said the rapporteur appointments, yes. In Question 6 and 12 were updated. Both the rapporteur and associate rapporteur in Question 6, but just the addition of an associate rapporteur in Question 12. 
   So then if you scroll down, the appointments of other roles, the guidance ‑‑ oh, the guidelines. Did we ‑‑ we missed that on the agenda. We had introduced that at the guidelines at the beginning of the agenda. 
   So let's ‑‑ let's add that under miscellaneous. What TD is that, Hiroshi? Was that indicated here on the ‑‑ 
   >> [?] 
   >> CHAIR: 224, yes. Yes. So we ‑‑ so why don't ‑‑ well, let's open that now. Can you ‑‑ can you open that now?
   We had shown those at the beginning. I had invited comments on that, if there are any comments. And so ‑‑ there were no comments, so just to show this, to highlight to everyone again, which is the two guidelines that we've updated, the ‑‑ the first one is AAP best practices which had a minor change that we noted at the opening plenary. 
   Which Hiroshi will scroll past here. It's on the withdrawal of last call or AR comments. 
   And then the next one, if you scroll on, was the virtual meeting procedures. Because A Supp 4 was updated the beginning of this year so we updated to align with that. 
   So can we agree these new guidelines for Study Group 15? New revised guidelines?
   Okay. They are agreed. So let's return to the report. Okay. And so then the meeting documents, we need to update the count of how many documents we have, but that's fine. Meeting results, the work program, you can scroll through all that. 
   We'll update this ‑‑ all these numbers here. And the regional group, you know, it was agreed to appoint the new vice‑chairs. We'll add that here as well. 
   And the promotion and coordination and the promotion program is noted here that we just talked about. There's the lead study group activities and the ANT, HNT here. There's the newcomer that happened in May that's indicated here. 
   And then there's the workshops that we'll mention. There's three TDs that we'll open in a minute that ‑‑ well, there's two TDs. First of all, which is ‑‑ well, I think there's one TD that we have. I'm not sure if we have the other ‑‑ well, certainly the one for tomorrow's not up yet. 
   And I'm not sure if 326 was ‑‑ do we post that one? Oh, okay. 
   Okay. Very good. And then so we'll open those shortly. And then will this is the interim meetings and virtual meetings. 
   And the plenary sponsors. So here I just want to highlight our sponsors again. IEEE 802, LMS committee as the platinum sponsor for this meeting in Montreal. The gold sponsors are Ciena and Ericsson. And then Corning, Lightera, tourism Montreal. And I didn't indicate here to the host, I need to indicate the host which is the Canadian government. We need to add in ‑‑ which we recognized the host in the beginning and the host gave us a welcome. 
   But yes, we need to mention the Canadian government and ISED as the host there.
    So the next I'll spend a few minutes on this, future meeting dates. 
   As I mentioned at the beginning, the ITU building project has been delayed, but it's now underway. It is possible for us to book meetings in Geneva for the rest of this year and for next year. 
   However, we will not be able to meet in Geneva in 2028 and 2029 and we're actively seeking hosts. 
   And ‑‑ but before that, we have now confirmed the meeting date for the next plenary, which will be February 15th through the 26th in Geneva. However, this meeting will have constraints. 
   So I guess unfortunately the only two weeks that were available in Geneva was the first two weeks of February. The first two weeks of February as our delegates of China are aware is the Chinese new year next year. So we really were working hard to avoid that. 
   However, as a result of us avoiding that, when all the rooms were available, like we had over ten rooms available in the ITU building, for these two weeks we have four meeting rooms in the ITU building. 
   And so it was going to be difficult to fit all of us in there. So as a result, they're looking to have us in an other facilities within or around Geneva. That's currently in negotiation as to who would go to the other facilities, if it's us or other groups meeting there. 
   In any case, the point is the management team will be setting the time plan, which means that the expected arrangement of Working Party 1, for example, and the second week or Question 5 all in the first week, we may not be able to accommodate that based on the rooms. 
   And so the room availability. And so we'd ask you to at this time please plan to attend the entire plenary. But when we put out the schedule for this meeting and the collective letter, that will have our best view of when the questions will be meeting during this February 15th to the 26th. 
   Okay. So that's for the next meeting. 
   So for after that meeting in 2027, we are looking to ‑‑ we've invited hosts outside of Geneva to entertain the ‑‑ us in October and November of 2027 as well as Jun/July of 2028. We're looking at those two options. 
   We have some options for 2029, but we're still looking at that. 
   For the rest of the study period after next February, the intent is that we will not meet in Geneva until the new building is finished in 2030. 
   So that's the ‑‑ that's the plan there. So let's continue with the report then. 
   This is the annexes of the various details here, I don't think we need to go through that. 
   Are there any comments, Ladies and Gentlemen, on the report of the draft report of Study Group 15?
   Please. Yes. If you can ‑‑ come to the microphone, please, so we can hear you and those remote can hear you as well. 
   >> Thank you, this is Franklin from Kenya. Just Section 3, observation. 
   >> CHAIR: Section 3. 
   >> Franklin: Where we are saying the meeting there was nearly, because we have this information, my view is let's take the actual documents. So as your advice, consider that. 
   >> CHAIR: Yes, thank you very much for that. This is highlighted in yellow because I'm waiting for my counselor to accurately count the number. So yes, he will ‑‑ he will accurately count the number and put that in for us. 
   Thank you. 
   Okay. Are there any other comments? On the report. 
   Thank you. As I had mentioned, we'll provide ‑‑ the report will be issued after the counselor has gone through and updated the sections ‑‑ the sections in yellow here. 
   So just let's bring up a TD 279. This is future activities which is ‑‑ well I think we've already shown that already. But this is ‑‑ this is ‑‑ this is just to remind you of what I had just said about the future meetings and how we're looking at hosts outside Geneva. 
   There's more detail in 279 of gen about the hosting arrangements and what you can do as well. 
   We have ‑‑ we have the meeting planners and sort of the primes who had worked with the meeting planners in Montreal who can provide hosts with what effort is involved. So please reach out to myself or Hiroshi to help with that detail. 
   So in any case, this is some background here. I went over this in detail at the opening plenary so I don't need to go over it here unless there's any questions on the future meetings and hosting. 
   Okay. I'm not seeing any. 
   So then the next is on the workshops. I'd just like to highlight the two work shops that we've already held. 
   The first one is the first workshop on the first day and that's in TD 325 of GEN. And so just this is just to highlight that we ‑‑ I mean, what I've requested is for the lead for each of these workshops to provide a TD that summarizes sort of the destruction and the outcome of the workshop. 
   (Pause). 
   >> CHAIR: It seems that TD 325 is not posted yet, but TD 326 is posted. But Hiroshi's doing ‑‑ so let's have ‑‑ we'll just quickly look at TD 326 which he's showing right now. This is the summary of the workshop that was on photonics for AI infrastructure. This is on Sunday July 5th and provides some background on what the event was. 
   And there should be ‑‑ there should be a picture there. Which doesn't show up so well. Yeah. So we'll fix that. 
   And then it talks about the program and if you scroll down there's probably some outcomes and such. 
   Okay. So that's the highlight of that one. 
   And so we'll note that for information. And we'll need to work on these pictures here that can't be displayed. 
(Pause). 
   >> CHAIR: Okay, so that one's not visible right now, Hiroshi can't bring it up. 
   In any case, this is just to note that ‑‑ you can go back to the agenda, Hiroshi. That the workshop TDs, the summaries of them will be available in TD 325, 326, and 327. So 325 and 26 are the ones that already happened this week and 327 is the one from tomorrow. Which will be available after the meeting. 
   Okay. Okay. So the next point on the agenda is the support for the appreciation for logistics support. And so as you ‑‑ as you may know, when we were in ‑‑ we were in McGill last week we had a number of students from McGill University from Concordia University, and from the University of Montreal from eco technologies [?] who were sort of guiding us around with the ITU T‑shirts you may have noticed. 
   So we appreciate their support for us, as well as, of course, the support from the meeting planners face‑to‑face events through the meeting planners for Study Group 15 here this week. 
   So we appreciated their support in making it smooth, at least from my perspective, between two locations that we had here for these meetings. 
   And so I wanted to note that. And that just to let the plenary know that I'll be providing an appreciation sort of ‑‑ to the students for their ‑‑ for their assistance with us last week and ‑‑ well I think last week we had a lot of students and this week we had a few students who were helping out as well. 
   Okay. And then the final point on certificates is I'd just like to highlight that typically at the end of the study period we hand out certificates to the leadership who have been involved. 
   And so that ‑‑ that is the process, unfortunately we couldn't accelerate any certificates. And so for Mr. Paul Dulan who resigned as Working Party 2 Chair, so we'll be providing them the certificate a little bit later. 
   As a result of that, his service with us, and as well I'd like to ‑‑ I guess I'd like to note that ‑‑ or at least recognize Mr. Shew who is vice‑chair from Canada. I understand this is going to be his last Study Group 15 plenary and I'd certainly like to appreciate his contribution to Study Group 15 over the last 20 years or 25 years. 
   Of course most recently as vice‑chair from Canada and Question 12 rapporteur. So his guidance has been very good and we certainly appreciate his support and we'll, I guess, send you a certificate in the mail sort of thing. 
   We took a picture earlier, maybe I'll Photoshop in the certificate into that picture. All right. So thank you, Steven. 
   So just to note those things for the plenary. And so I think that's it. Is there anything else on our agenda? For today?
I mean, with the ‑‑ I mean, maybe the final thank yous to ‑‑ but I didn't miss anything? We did the guidance which we did that. 
   So very good. Okay. So very good. I'd like to thank the management team and all the vice‑chairs, the Working Party chairs, the PCG Chair and coordinators for all your support during these two weeks. And of course before. 
   And as we prepared for this plenary. To the extended leadership team as we call the extended leadership team which includes the rapporteurs, the associate rapporteurs, and liaison rapporteurs, it's you who are actually guiding the technical work and we appreciate your support in doing that. 
   Thank you to all the experts who are here and thank you for those who stayed for the closing plenary. 
   I appreciate our counselor, Hiroshi Ota here, and Hioto, who I think he's remote listening to us. Thank you as well of course to Emmanuel Lebar who is not here right now because she's preparing liaisons for IEEE I think is ‑‑ just to make sure. 
   And of course thank you to Ilia from TSB who's been very important for us to make sure all the network works. While he can't fix the hotel network, the entire hotel went down, by the way, earlier today. It wasn't just us. Like they couldn't check anyone in, they couldn't do anything. 
   And so ‑‑ but Ilia's been making it smooth for all of us here and we really appreciate the support from TSB for that. 
   And I already thanked our host and our sponsors and the students. I guess the final thing is to thank the captioners. I think captioning is still going. So thank you for the ‑‑ to the captioners. 
   And I look forward to seeing ‑‑ to all of you in person in Geneva next February. And if you are ‑‑ if you're at ECOC, which is in Spain later this year, come look for us at the ITU booth. The ITU booth, but it's ‑‑ we're highlighting Study Group 15 at that booth. 
   And certainly promote us at ‑‑ on social media. 
   Very good. So with that, I'd like to thank everyone and I'd like to close this meeting of Study Group 15 here in Montreal. 
   Thank you. 
[Gavel pounded]
   (Applause)
   >> CHAIR: Thank you very much. So just a reminder, everyone, that now that we're closed, we're having a closing toast to our successful meeting with some light snacks and refreshments. This will be on the seventh floor in the ‑‑ I guess the suite area. So we have all the suites up there. 
   So everyone is welcome to join us from 6:00 or, yeah, so like in ten or 15 minutes, to give me time to go up and staff time to go up and open the doors. But everyone's welcome to join us on the seventh floor to toast our great success. 
   And of course you're also welcome to join us tomorrow at the joint workshop with IEEE that we'll be holding in this room. 
   Okay, thank you and see you all shortly. 
(Session ended at 17:40 p.m. ET) 
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